Still looking and frustrated.

Originally Posted by yenoc31

Hello again. This may be off topic but I could use some advice on calling overseas and sending regular mail to the philippines. I've tried sending letters to a c ouple of ladies over there in the past and the letter never seems to get there. This just happened last month again. I mailed a letter to a friend and it never got there.

I used the mailing address I was given by the friend and got the proper postage. Does this happen often when trying to send mail over there?

The other thing is does anyone know a good way to call over there? or a not so expensive means of making internal calls? I've don't have long distance on my phone because I don't make many long distance calls. I am sure calling overseas isn't cheap either. I have been asked by some women in the past to call them but I never have because of not knowing about the cost of phoning there.

Are cell phone and regular phone service in the philippines cheap for the girls to have or use? I have one friend in kuwait and one in the philippes who i'd like to try calling. I bought an 800 minute phone calling card and I tried using it this weekend to phone kuwait. I didn't get thru but there was a brief connection made then I found out using one minute of card time here is equal to using 20 minutes up calling there.

I'm trying to be a cheapskate but I'm not rich either. What are some of the ways you folks phone overseas? are there any not too expensive ways to do this? thanks.

Maybe the first hand who recieve your letter think that the envelop have money... Anyway, it never happened to me and my husband. Becasue what he is doing, he is only sending as thin paper or letter as possible so that when the people touch it they know nothing else in it but plain paper.

about calling Philippines or other country, try this: www.longdistanceplus.com they have information there. That's what i've been using since i got here in the US and i never had problem till now.

thanks MISH_LionTigerShark.

Originally Posted by yenoc31

thanks MISH_LionTigerShark.

Mike,

It was ten years from when I sent out my first pen pal letter until I found the right one for me. I tried lots of different services and so forth and I can honestly say I have a good deal of experience in these matters if you care to listen to my advice. Don't worry, it shouldn't take you ten years to find the right one, but you should be preparred to wait two or three and to not necessarily settle for the first girl who doesn't run from you. In your first post, one thing stands out clearly, you are trying to present yourself in ways that you imagine will make girls interested in you. Of course, everyone wants to put thier best face forward, but making compromises in your character and whitewhashing your differences will get you nowhere in the long run. Be very honest and very direct about yourself and your life. The right girl will appreciate your straighforwrdness as much as you will appreciate hers.

Also I get the impression that you are worried that you may be too average to be "competive" and are a target for scammers. I don't know what site you belong to, but the more popular the site the more scammers you will come across and the more anonymous you will be. You might want to try one of the smaller, more personalized services. Two smaller ones that have been around for a while are http://www.melindaspenpals.com and http://www.everlastinglove.com/ . I never used either of these sites to meet somebody but the point is to do some looking beyond the service you are in. By trying paths less traveled you will improve your chances. On Melindaspenpals you can even find some girls who rely on postal mail and not internet and you may find yourself to be the ony one who has ever sent them a letter.

Its very true that you can vacation in the PI and easily meet lots of nice women, people will try to matchmake for you if they know you are looking, but there are many advantages to taking several months to become acquinted with someone though correspondence. However if you don't meet someone through the internet by all means save you pennies and plan a vacation to your favorite Philippine Isle.

Thanks DHBoggs, I will give those sites a look. I will gladly take any site recommendations anyone wants to send my way. I won't mention the site I belong to now but it's a pay site and to be honest i am tired of doling out for their monthly fee. Thanks again.

Mike, I agree with boggs and Tom.....

Originally Posted by DHBoggs

Its very true that you can vacation in the PI and easily meet lots of nice women, people will try to matchmake for you if they know you are looking, but there are many advantages to taking several months to become acquinted with someone though correspondence. However if you don't meet someone through the internet by all means save you pennies and plan a vacation to your favorite Philippine Isle.

Originally Posted by simtek130

I see alot of reasons not to go, Try to come up with some to go. What you dare to dream dare to do. I remember I had the same ideas but I got up and went. Sure I already had a line on a woman before I left but in your case there are alot of people ready and willing to help you with a guide. What better way to get to know a person? Why would you treat this any different than an AMERICAN WOMAN ? You can get a plane ticket for 700-900 bucks and nothing says you have to marry anyone when you get there. If you wanna get laid when you go you are going for the wrong reason. I can promise you will want to go back so you will have an excuse to do so. There are alot of people going that way even on this page maybe you can hook up until you feel comfortable and there are alot of people that know people there that will take care of you. Don't be afraid it will be the best experience of your life.

Tom

Originally Posted by yenoc31

My name is Mike and this is the first post I've made to this forum. I've been looking around the reading various topics and postings and it's very educational. I don't know if I am posting this under the right topic but I really would like to hear what other people have to say about this.

I've been a member of various web sites and forums for about two years now looking around and hoping to meet a girl from the Phillipines that I can get to know and hopefully marry some day. I've talked to and chatted with my fair share of girls over there and I still haven't met the right lady yet.

My first thoughts of course are maybe I am doing something wrong with the way I present myself or maybe I am not communicating well to the women I meet. I am not sure what the problem is, lord knows I've tried changing things about myself and how I present myself.

After reading your post, I wonder why you are exclusively searching for a Filipina to meet and marry. It is not like going to Baskin Robbins and asking for whatever flavor you want. There are a lot of myths and misconceptions about Filipinas out there. If you are looking for a submissive, demure, obedient woman that will be "obscene and not heard", you are definitely barking up the wrong tree. The culture can also be complex and very different from our western perspective. I find myself both amused and confused at times when trying to understand the culture. Are you prepared for this?

Yes, I am engaged to a Filipina, but first and foremost I love the woman for who she is as a person. She just happens to be a Filipina.

When it comes down to it, women are women, her nationality should not be a prerequisite for you meeting her.

When you think of the incredible odds of two people that are meant to be together meeting, whether it is online or walking down the street, it is mindblowing. Being in the right place at the right time or even the right frame of mind can alter the sequence of events. Of course searching online has it's benefits because your intentions are a long term serious relationship, and hopefully her intentions are the same. Once you have this commonality, then you have common goals other than just getting married to contend with.

Don't worry about "changing yourself", because if your intentions are good and it is meant to be, she will love you for who you are. Over the course of years, we are shaped into who we are by life's experiences. You can not change who you are the same as she cannot change who she is. what if you changed yourself and she changed herself and you chatted online for months then the time came that you met and you found that you had nothing in common?

Just be true to yourself. There is someone out there for everyone and with patience you will find oneanother. Good luck and don't give up.

Count me in as one of those that might be able to provide an introduction to a good woman that happens to be a Filipina

Chris

Mike,

Just a friendly advice, QUIT LOOKING FOR AWHILE AND GIVE YOURSELF A BREAK. RELAX. Let them find you, for a change.

Even if you go for a trip to PI, you still not sure with them because lot of them, specially in Ermita will jump on you because your a KANO and they think you have lottsa $$$$money..hehehe..If ever you go to PI, beware of FIAGROO CAFE inside Robinson Malate..lol..lotsa BAYOTS.

Originally Posted by ozzy_wife

Mike,

Just a friendly advice, QUIT LOOKING FOR AWHILE AND GIVE YOURSELF A BREAK. RELAX. Let them find you, for a change.

That is excellent advice Irene

Originally Posted by yenoc31

Thanks DHBoggs, I will give those sites a look. I will gladly take any site recommendations anyone wants to send my way. I won't mention the site I belong to now but it's a pay site and to be honest i am tired of doling out for their monthly fee. Thanks again.

hi! sorry to read about your troubles with some filipinas. and i am glad that you are not ready to give up on us.

from a girl's perspective, i will not ask money from you if i'm looking for a genuine relationship. what the others said are all true and i read that the major rule in starting a long distance relationship is not to send money. it might sound a little harsh, but it does make sense. that way, you can tell the spammers from the real deal.

good luck on your search. it's really worth the wait!

btw, mind telling us your age and what you're looking for in a girl? we might be able to hook you up with someone.

i'm not a pimp folks! avavav

I have aunt, 35 yrs old, no kids and never been married (but surely not virgin anymore)